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Manipulating the roll of the dice (Dice Control or Dice Setting) is one of the most common methods for cheating in Craps. Holding the dice in a particular grip or throwing it in a certain manner lets players can gain a crucial edge over the house and other players at the table.
Nudge slot machine for sale. In terms of legality, Dice control in Craps is like card counting in Blackjack. It is not illegal but the casino goes through an assortment of methods to stop it.
For instance, the dice will be changed after each round, and you cannot touch the dice with two hands (to prevent dice switching). Furthermore, each roll must hit the back of the table to ensure randomness.
None the less, some people argue dice control is a matter of skill and is part of the game. For instance, in cricket the bowler has developed a refined method for throwing balls, the same is true for darts, so why not Craps?
There are a number of methods or systems for dice control that can affect the outcome of the game. Remember that when someone who has mastered the art of Dice Control it doesn't mean that they can throw any number they choose first time.
However, in the long term they will be able to produce certain outcomes and swing the odds in their favour. For example, an ability to throw Snake Eyes (1,1) pays out 30:1. If you can roll enough times to remove the house edge (true odds of Snake Eyes is 35:1) then you will make profit over hundreds of rolls.
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Grip and Handling The Dice
Dice Grip is how you hold the dice in your hands. It involves wrapping certain fingers around the dice and letting go at specific times to create a consistent 'release' of the dice.
Dice Stacking is which direction the dice is facing in your hands i.e. 6 facing upwards or 2 point downwards. You adjust the dice's position based on which numbers you want to roll.
When you throw the dice, you want to release them simultaneously so that they roll in synchronization. Experts recommend minimizing contact with the dice because the 'stickiness' and 'friction' of your fingers alters the flow. When you minimize this, the dice will roll more naturally.
You also need to put equal pressure on each dice and hold them together before they roll.
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Alignment of The Dice
You need to position the dice level with the table and parallel to the sides. It takes practice, but to ensure you're doing it right you can lower the dice to the table to check they're position. The best landing is when the dice's bottom touches the table flat-on. This avoids the dice's corner hitting the table on impact.
Delivering and Throwing The Dice
How you should throw the dice is simple in theory. You're looking to throw the dice straight down the centre of the table and with the same 'spin' along the x-axis.
You have to throw the dice as straight as possible. Players find getting this part right the most difficult because their shoulders and body position have to be aligned correctly.
It is very similar to golf, if you're position is off the ball will not travel in a straight line.
Aim to stop your thumb touching the ball. This is the most common reason for balls 'splitting' into different directions. The less your thumb touches the ball the more control you have.
Finally, the most advanced Dice Throwers can use 'Back Spin'. This counters the bounce of the dice against the wall at the end of the table (the velvet triangles). The dice are thrown with back spin along the same x-axis.
Conclusion on Manipulating Dice in Craps
Years ago, even the most basic players could manipulate the dice to improve their chances of making money in Craps. However, recent rules by casinos for Craps that the shooter must throw the dice to hit the back of the table has reduced the effectiveness of dice manipulation.
Along with this, the evidence for dice setting working is very sketchy. Although dice setting works in theory, it actually takes long term results to see the benefits. The downsides the dice manipulation includes re-rolls and being thrown out of a casino.
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DICE CONTROL
Controlling the Dice – IS IT FACT OR FICTION?
by Henry Tamburin
The hot topic in gambling these days is dice control and whether it's possible for players to influence the results of their rolls to gain the advantage over the casino. To get some answers about this controversial topic, I interviewed Dan Pronovost, president of DeepNet Technologies (www.deepnettech.com) and the developer of the revolutionary blackjack advantage playing system, Speed Count, which Frank Scoblete and I teach.
CP: What was your opinion of dice control before you began studying it?
DP: I was highly skeptical and reluctant to even get involved at first. Dice control is a pariah subject in some circles of gambling authors and experts. The game of craps tends to attract more scam authors and 'system hawkers,' who peddle betting methods and other voodoo to 'win.' As with all casino games, there is no way to get a long-term and sustainable advantage simply by using an uninformed betting system, regardless of the progression or regression. But after I saw Frank Scoblete and other experts throw the dice, it was clear something was going on, because of dice control.
Can you describe in layman's terms what's involved in controlling the dice?
It is about finely controlling the throw of the dice such that some numbers appear more (or less) than expected in the long run. Generally the shooter tries throwing the dice so that they are square to the table, do not wobble, stay together in the air and rotate together evenly. Dice controllers want the dice to land on a face as much as possible, absorbing most of the energy so that they barely graze the back wall and land softly. With a good throw, the dice controller is hoping to control undesirable pitches and rotations, providing enough of a deviation from random to yield a positive edge.
What's the difference between a 'random' versus 'nonrandom' dice shooter?
Most shooters pick up the dice and fling them down the table. The dice hit the back wall hard, bounce around and finally come to rest. This is a typical random roll, and in the long run we know mathematically how many times each number will be rolled (e.g., the 7 will be thrown once out of every six rolls on average). As long as the dice behave in a random manner, the casino will always have the edge over players. The rolls of dice controllers, however, are nonrandom in the long run because they can influence which numbers appear on the dice. Skilled dice controllers, because of their nonrandom rolls, have altered the nature of craps.
Is it possible for an average player to learn how to control the dice?
Yes, but it isn't easy. Unlike advantage play in blackjack, dice control is a physical skill rather than a purely mental talent. Even worse, since the influence is marginal and inconsistent, assessing dice control properly is a challenging statistical process. From my own experience, I estimate that six months or more of weekly practice (five hours a week) is required to be able to acquire sufficient skill to get a positive edge and prove it.
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Nudge slot machine for sale. In terms of legality, Dice control in Craps is like card counting in Blackjack. It is not illegal but the casino goes through an assortment of methods to stop it.
For instance, the dice will be changed after each round, and you cannot touch the dice with two hands (to prevent dice switching). Furthermore, each roll must hit the back of the table to ensure randomness.
None the less, some people argue dice control is a matter of skill and is part of the game. For instance, in cricket the bowler has developed a refined method for throwing balls, the same is true for darts, so why not Craps?
There are a number of methods or systems for dice control that can affect the outcome of the game. Remember that when someone who has mastered the art of Dice Control it doesn't mean that they can throw any number they choose first time.
However, in the long term they will be able to produce certain outcomes and swing the odds in their favour. For example, an ability to throw Snake Eyes (1,1) pays out 30:1. If you can roll enough times to remove the house edge (true odds of Snake Eyes is 35:1) then you will make profit over hundreds of rolls.
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Grip and Handling The Dice
Dice Grip is how you hold the dice in your hands. It involves wrapping certain fingers around the dice and letting go at specific times to create a consistent 'release' of the dice.
Dice Stacking is which direction the dice is facing in your hands i.e. 6 facing upwards or 2 point downwards. You adjust the dice's position based on which numbers you want to roll.
When you throw the dice, you want to release them simultaneously so that they roll in synchronization. Experts recommend minimizing contact with the dice because the 'stickiness' and 'friction' of your fingers alters the flow. When you minimize this, the dice will roll more naturally.
You also need to put equal pressure on each dice and hold them together before they roll.
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Alignment of The Dice
You need to position the dice level with the table and parallel to the sides. It takes practice, but to ensure you're doing it right you can lower the dice to the table to check they're position. The best landing is when the dice's bottom touches the table flat-on. This avoids the dice's corner hitting the table on impact.
Delivering and Throwing The Dice
How you should throw the dice is simple in theory. You're looking to throw the dice straight down the centre of the table and with the same 'spin' along the x-axis.
You have to throw the dice as straight as possible. Players find getting this part right the most difficult because their shoulders and body position have to be aligned correctly.
It is very similar to golf, if you're position is off the ball will not travel in a straight line.
Aim to stop your thumb touching the ball. This is the most common reason for balls 'splitting' into different directions. The less your thumb touches the ball the more control you have.
Finally, the most advanced Dice Throwers can use 'Back Spin'. This counters the bounce of the dice against the wall at the end of the table (the velvet triangles). The dice are thrown with back spin along the same x-axis.
Conclusion on Manipulating Dice in Craps
Years ago, even the most basic players could manipulate the dice to improve their chances of making money in Craps. However, recent rules by casinos for Craps that the shooter must throw the dice to hit the back of the table has reduced the effectiveness of dice manipulation.
Along with this, the evidence for dice setting working is very sketchy. Although dice setting works in theory, it actually takes long term results to see the benefits. The downsides the dice manipulation includes re-rolls and being thrown out of a casino.
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Try Craps With a 100% up to $100 Deposit Bonus – CLICK HERE
DICE CONTROL
Controlling the Dice – IS IT FACT OR FICTION?
by Henry Tamburin
The hot topic in gambling these days is dice control and whether it's possible for players to influence the results of their rolls to gain the advantage over the casino. To get some answers about this controversial topic, I interviewed Dan Pronovost, president of DeepNet Technologies (www.deepnettech.com) and the developer of the revolutionary blackjack advantage playing system, Speed Count, which Frank Scoblete and I teach.
CP: What was your opinion of dice control before you began studying it?
DP: I was highly skeptical and reluctant to even get involved at first. Dice control is a pariah subject in some circles of gambling authors and experts. The game of craps tends to attract more scam authors and 'system hawkers,' who peddle betting methods and other voodoo to 'win.' As with all casino games, there is no way to get a long-term and sustainable advantage simply by using an uninformed betting system, regardless of the progression or regression. But after I saw Frank Scoblete and other experts throw the dice, it was clear something was going on, because of dice control.
Can you describe in layman's terms what's involved in controlling the dice?
It is about finely controlling the throw of the dice such that some numbers appear more (or less) than expected in the long run. Generally the shooter tries throwing the dice so that they are square to the table, do not wobble, stay together in the air and rotate together evenly. Dice controllers want the dice to land on a face as much as possible, absorbing most of the energy so that they barely graze the back wall and land softly. With a good throw, the dice controller is hoping to control undesirable pitches and rotations, providing enough of a deviation from random to yield a positive edge.
What's the difference between a 'random' versus 'nonrandom' dice shooter?
Most shooters pick up the dice and fling them down the table. The dice hit the back wall hard, bounce around and finally come to rest. This is a typical random roll, and in the long run we know mathematically how many times each number will be rolled (e.g., the 7 will be thrown once out of every six rolls on average). As long as the dice behave in a random manner, the casino will always have the edge over players. The rolls of dice controllers, however, are nonrandom in the long run because they can influence which numbers appear on the dice. Skilled dice controllers, because of their nonrandom rolls, have altered the nature of craps.
Is it possible for an average player to learn how to control the dice?
Yes, but it isn't easy. Unlike advantage play in blackjack, dice control is a physical skill rather than a purely mental talent. Even worse, since the influence is marginal and inconsistent, assessing dice control properly is a challenging statistical process. From my own experience, I estimate that six months or more of weekly practice (five hours a week) is required to be able to acquire sufficient skill to get a positive edge and prove it.
How can a player prove that he or she has enough control of the dice to have the edge over the casino?
This was a difficult problem. Players were using the seven-to-rolls ratio (SRR), which measures the average number of tosses it takes for one 7 to appear. However SRR is very imprecise statistically and can require 5,000 or more rolls to say anything meaningful about your dice control. More importantly it doesn't provide any mathematical basis to optimize dice sets and calculate maximal player edge. This was one of the reasons I developed my Smart Craps software.
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Can you describe your Smart Craps software and what it does?
The most useful aspect of Smart Craps is Pro Test, which is a precise and mathematically sound way to statistically measure your dice control skill, determine your edge and optimize your dice sets. You can record a set of rolls and enter the results in Smart Craps, and compare your data using Pro Test to a truly random shooter. If there is less than one percent chance of a random shooter replicating your results across one or more of three statistical measures, then there is ample evidence you are influencing the dice. Then, Smart Craps uses that influence to determine how you bias the outcomes, and then cycles through all the possible dice sets to determine which set is optimum and finally computes your edge over the casino based on which wagers you make. Smart Craps is also a very powerful software simulator that can even let you program your own betting systems if you want. Users can test and experiment with virtually any craps scenario. It took my company over one year to refine the mathematics, write the program and complete the testing of the software.
Have you tested anyone for dice control using your software and have they passed the Pro Test?
Yes. I tested a number of instructors at a Golden Touch Craps course, and have since looked at data from many early users of the software. Passing Pro Test gets easier as you add more rolls, but several have passed in as few as 100 or 200 rolls. This represents a very high and rare level of skill… 500 to 1,000 rolls to pass is more typical of well-trained dice controllers.
How much of an edge can a dice controller have over the casino?
This varies depending on skill. With Smart Craps you can 'tune down' your Pro Test results before calculating an edge. This is similar to election polls when they say the results are within a margin of error. With this conservative 'confidence interval' reduction, I've seen positive player's edges for dice controllers from 0.5–15 percent with wagers on the pass line and/or place bets on the six or eight.
Players must hit the back wall when they throw the dice. Doesn't this prevent shooters from controlling their throws?
It certainly makes dice control much harder! Even the best-controlled throws will not necessarily come out 'right' every time they throw the dice, just like a skilled pitcher in baseball doesn't throw strikes on every throw. Controlling the dice is an incredibly difficult skill to master, and passing Pro Test is challenging on real tables with diamond-backed walls. But not impossible… many Smart Craps users have passed Pro Test.
Does the way a dice controller bets influence how much of an edge he or she has?
Absolutely. I've seen controllers with verified skill still playing at a loss because of poor bets and nonoptimal dice sets. Bets in craps range from a 1 percent house edge all the way up to 15 percent or more. Dice control is a difficult and marginal skill at the best of times… making foolish bets is still a good way to lose money, as with all casino games.
What would you recommend to readers who might be interested in learning more about dice control?
My favorite two books on dice control are Get the Edge at Craps by Sharpshooter and The Craps Underground by Frank Scoblete. The former is a good technical treatise on dice control, while the latter is a very entertaining insider look at craps from a seasoned profitable expert. Since dice control is a physical skill, taking a hands-on course such as Golden Touch Craps is a good investment (worked for me!). And of course I recommend our Smart Craps software (www.SmartCraps.com) to help dice controllers test and fine tune their skill!
Dr. Henry Tamburin is a casino gambling expert and teacher of 'smart gambling' to players everywhere. For details on his two-day Golden Touch Blackjack course featuring Speed Count call 866/WIN-BJ21. To order copies of his books and tapes at a 30 percent discount, visit www.smartgaming.com. To receive a free subscription to his Blackjack Insider Newsletter, visit www.bjinsider.com. For a free copy of his Casino Gambling catalog, call 888/353-3234.
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